Podcasts I've Been Listening To Lately

Last Updated: 07/03/2019


In the Spring of 2017, I started a podcast called "Rob Morgan Is A Curious Person" and I often get asked what some of my favorite podcasts are that I listen to on a regular basis.

Due to the fact that I have the worst freakin memory when it comes to proper nouns, I decided to put together a list of what I've been listening to lately to share with you. 

Whether you're completely new to podcasts, looking for a place to start or it's already apart of your regular routine and you're just looking for something fresh, I hope this helps find a new favorite. 

Stay Curious,


In Regards To List Order: These aren't listed in order of recommendation. I'll be adding the new ones to the bottom of the list as I find them because... I'm lazy that way.

Rob Morgan Is A Curious Person - Come on... I had to right????

Rob Bell's "The RobCast" - This is spirituality focused podcast has kept my head on straight in some heavy moments.

The Tim Ferriss Show - This is everything. The deepest, most intentional conversations with some of the most influential people in the world. (start with his first interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger or Cal Fussman)

Building A Story Brand With Donald Miller - A business and marketing podcast that has been a career game changer. (listen to this on your drive into work)

This American Life - NPR Gold

Serial - NPR Storytelling at it's finest (road trip with this)

High and Mighty w/ Jon Gabrus - Hilarious and perfectly NSFW. (Not for those with young ears in the car as his intro is essentially saying F*CK 15x) 

Making Oprah - Because Oprah is the best thing to happen to the planet, learn how she happened to it. 

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations - Like a freakin protein shake for your soul.

Song Exploder - Dissecting the creation of your favorite songs. 

WTF w/ Marc Maron - Long format interviews with people you've heard of. 

Revisionist History w/ Malcolm Gladwell - One of the smartest men alive breaking down ideas that could change the way you think about things. 

The Scotch And A Movie Podcast - Like Scotch? Like Films? You'll enjoy my friends as they dive into both. (I may or may not have been a guest on it once...)

You Made It Weird - Comedian Pete Holmes talking to people you may have heard of. (Start with his interview w/ Noel Gallagher of OASIS)

The Liturgists Podcast - Faith and Spirituality for people turned off of faith and spirituality. (Listen to this if you’re curious about maybe not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You're in good company)

LORE - Aaron Mahnke tells dark creepy historical stories that fuel modern superstition. Entertaining 30min. 

Armchair Expert With Dax Shepard - New to 2018 and an instant top of the charts.

AKIMBO: A Podcast From Seth Godin - This is huge and changes the way I think about life and my career on a regular basis. (listen to this if you’re into marketing or being intentional w/ your career)

Big Questions With Cal Fussman - The man who taught me how to ask better questions. (start w/ his interview w/ Larry King)

Showcase From Radiotopia: The Polybius Conspiracy - Documentary style story for when you're on a roadtrip. Serial Podcast meets 1980's video arcade. 

Conan O’brian Needs A Friend - One of the best conversationalists and a new favorite.

Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History - If you like history, Dan dives into it in some of the best non-stop storytelling EVER (listen to this on a roadtrip. the shortest ones are around 4hrs)

Revisionist History - If you like Malcolm Gladwell (tipping point, outliers) this is him in top form!

Off Camera With Sam Jones - Long form interview podcast hosted by one of the greatest and kindest humans on the planet. I want to make people feel like Sam makes them feel. (start w/ his interview w/ Robert Downey Jr)

If you have any podcasts that aren’t on this list and you think I’d like to listen to (or thoughts on any that are listed here) I’d love to hear from you! Contact Me HERE

I Don’t Want To Become A Chillaxi

Behold, the Chillaxi.

Typically seen empty, circling downtown, hoping to can catch someone’s eye and get booked. 

Remnants of dying industry grasping at straws to stay in the game while misinterpreting the needs and desires of the current industry.

Only a few years ago, taxis used to be the answer to a problem.

The “Go To”

The “industry standard”

But then, someone came up with a better, faster, easier, more modern solution and, seemingly overnight, they became obsolete to an entire generation.

But it wasn’t overnight. 

Instead of doing the constant self (and external) examination that leads to a genuine understanding of where the industry is headed and where they fit in it, they woke up one day and realized the world around them had changed.

The phone no longer rang on it’s own.

In a panic, the ’quick fix’ was to put on a trendy outfit with the hopes of appearing hip and still with it.

The only problem is, once you open the door, it’s just an ordinary taxi.  

Good thing that never happens in the music world or other creative industries…

Let The Game Come To You

It’s 9am on a Wednesday morning and I haven’t eaten breakfast.

A half-liter of Paulaner Hefe-Weizen is in my hand and the only thing keeping me from questioning my life’s choices and thinking of myself as a complete lush is the fact that I’m surrounded by a bar full of business professionals who decided to spend their morning doing the same thing. Funny how a socially expectable thing like watching Germany play in the World Cup can turn adults into the equivalent of teenagers pretending they’re sick, skipping school and being careful none of their friends post a picture of them online in fear of indictment. 

As the match ended and the bar began to empty, defeated Germany fans returning to work with overcompensated posture and enunciation, I found myself sitting in conversation with a gentleman and his wife. Both in their mid seventies, their retirement allowing them not to feel rushed to leave, I became soberly aware of my career as a musician possibly meaning a decision to take my retirement in small segments throughout the week therefore lessening the chances of the possibility later in life. 

I noticed they’d been drinking the lukewarm-black-sludge most bars pass off as “coffee” all morning so I can only assume that the conversation ended up taking a deeper turn mainly due to the forwardness and courage my breakfast choice of liquid bread and hops had given me. 

I had asked about an offhand comment I overheard the husband make, saying that they had only been married for 3 years, but we ended up talking abut marriage, careers and life in general over the next half-hour when he said something that stuck out, hidden within a considerable amount of wisdom the rest of the conversation with them held. 

“As much as we force things in life to work out, I feel like the best thing to do is what your coach used to tell you if you ever played sports when you were younger. ‘Let the game come to you.’ Don’t feel like you need to franticly run around forcing things to work out the way you want them to. Trust things are going to work out and open yourself to the possibilities of the unknown, life has a way of working itself out.”

My buzz is gone but his words are still floating around my head, dulling the usual sharpness of my self-consciousness and worry.  

When staring down the loaded barrel of an empty day, week or month (a phrase I heard Pete Holmes say on his podcast and related to instantly) I find myself wanting to force things to happen, or worse, question the sanity of my decision to venture down this road of being an artist with the sole goal of finding my own voice in the world. 

“Calm down Morgan, ‘Let the game come to you’.”

Over the past five days, it’s become a sort of mantra I’ve used to remind myself throughout the day when I feel the fear creeping back into focus and I've decided to make it a regular meditation throughout this next month. 

Not as an excuse to be lazy, but as a reminder to take a deep breath, trust the process and

“Let the game come to you.”

Two Toxic Habits

As an Artist Augmenter, when sitting down with an artist for the first time, something I like to talk about are two toxic habits all artists and musicians who perform live are temped by that I’ve seen first hand in green rooms countless times all over the world. I explain how avoiding it might be one of the most important decisions they make when it comes to a healthy and sustainable performing career.

The impact I've seen of artists making this a priority have been so powerful that I decided to take some time to sit down and share those thoughts here with you with the guarantee that, anyone who chooses to put the following two rules, or anti-habits, into practice will find unimaginable benefits throughout their career.  



"Never Count The Crowd


"Never Judge The Response



It’s ten minutes before taking the stage. We’re amassed in the green room getting ourselves mentally prepared to go on stage as someone has decided to designate themselves the official “Herald of Attendance” bringing to the group’s attention such gravely needed audience member head-counts in the form of phrases such as: 

“It’s a packed house! This is going to be a good one.”


“Dang, it’s only half full. There’s barely anyone out there.” 

The problem with crap like this, and why this person should be slapped immediately and dragged out of the green room preferably by a bald & sweaty security escort, is:

1. With all the distractions and last minute issues wrenching for your attention before playing a show, it's critical that you only focus on issues within your circle of influence. The attendance size isn't something within your control at this moment. Move on.  

2. The number of people currently there to see you perform holds ZERO impact on how you should approach your forthcoming set mentally.

When I was younger, I used to say things like, “We’re not doing it for the audience, we’re doing it for ourselves. We’re doing it for the love of the craft, for the love of the music.”

My outlook has since changed to the belief that we’re doing it 100% for the people in the audience! If we weren’t, we’d just make this music alone in as small of a practice space as possible, record it, and move on to the next project. That's called making a record. The moment you decide to perform that music live for other people, the intention changes, who you're doing it for changes.


"...if someone has paid admission at the door to see you play, you owe them something. You're literally walking on stage in their debt."

Now, I want to be extremely clear that I'm not saying that your show shouldn't be about the music or the songs themselves. I have zero interest in having a gag-reflex-triggering conversation with someone who cares more about how they look on stage than than they do making good music. In fact, this isn't even about what you should be focusing on while you're on stage.

What I'm talking about is setting intention and understanding WHY you're about to go onstage and WHO this is for.   

As much as we musicians find ourselves saying things like, "Support Live Music" or "Support The Arts", no matter the venue or musical scenario, once someone is in the door, they aren’t there to support you. Even if the crowd is made up entirely of your friends an family who's intention is to 'support you' by going to your fourth kickstarter cd-release concert, as far as you should be concerned, the only reason they are there to have an EXPERIENCE and SHARE a moment that will only exist tonight.

The reason YOU are there,

is to GIVE that to them. 

The fact that we as musicians are fulled by the presence, the energy and the response of a crowd is a byproduct of the synergy of the situation. Don’t fool yourself into the lie that the crowd is there to GIVE you anything. I'd even go as far as saying, if someone has paid admission at the door to see you play, you owe them something. You're literally walking on stage in their debt. 




              To give.


Give them a new way to think about something.

Give them a break from everyday life.

Give them an experience.

Give them rush of adrenaline.

Give them a new favorite song that they can associate to the memory of this evening and fall asleep to in weeks to come while their parents are shouting at each other in the room next door. 

Of course, it’s a bummer when you’ve worked your ass off to write music, practice the tunes, book a date, promote it, lug all your crap there to set-up and soundcheck only to find yourself playing to a handful of people in a crappy sounding room. 

The thing is... counting the crowd doesn’t alleviate any of that, all it does is cheapen the value of the people who did show up to see you play. 

That's not to say don't learn from the night and take action. OF COURSE you should ask yourself why nobody came to your show and figure out what you can do better in the future so you don't only play to your mom's work friends again. 

Maybe people don't attend shows booked on a Monday at 4pm. Book a better slot. 

Maybe you need to promote it better next time.

But here's the deal: None of that matters right now, in this moment. 

Quit whining and ruminating on the size of crowd your ground-breaking music deserves, shut up, embody a genuine sense of gratitude for those that are there, and fiercely determine to give them a show they’ll never forget.  

"Never Judge The Response

After the show, the second temptation to judge response of the crowd is even easier to fall into and ten times more toxic due to the fact that, if left unchecked, it has the power to discourage an artist to the point of never wanting to play in front of people again.  

It’s incredibly easy to walk off stage thinking that the audience ‘wasn’t feeling it tonight’ but here’s the cold hard truth: 

We are INCAPABLE of discerning the impact of the moment on those in attendance judging by the outward physical response that we perceive from on stage in the moment. 

Unless the crowd is literally booing, throwing trash on stage or assaulting you by blatant heckling, we truly don’t know the impact our music had on someone. 

Even the most unaffected-by-adrenaline artists playing a show in the smallest most well-lit of venues can’t see everything while performing. The few reactions you do see are not a reflection of the entire crowd. And even those you do see, you have no idea what’s going through their mind or in their lives that leads them to looking the way they do in that moment. 

I remember playing a sold out show in Guangzho, China. Thousands were there in person and we later found out that millions streamed it live all over the continent. To say that the green room was electric with energy before playing would be a massive understatement. As the music director, I had designed the show to start off with the band walking onto a pitch black stage and begin performing the intro song as the music and lights grew louder and brighter leading to a climactic break where the stage was finally illuminated and the artist appeared in front of the crowd, seemingly out of nowhere. 

As soon as my eyes adjusted, rocking out and giving everything I had in the moment, I looked out to see THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE… sitting down! During intermission, after a comment was made about how it was a bummer that they weren’t standing up and rocking out, jumping up and down like we were accustomed to of other audiences during that tour, it was explained to us that it was due to Chinese police enforcing everyone to remain seated for the entire set in fear of a riot and in accordance to Chinese Public Gathering Laws. 

I remember a moment in the second half of the show playing through tears as I saw an 11yr old little girl SITTING with her friends so excited and moved by the music that she was compelled to move in any way she could and sat waving her hands back and forth and dancing in her seat.
(She later threw a gift stuffed animal on stage during the encore, something we're accustomed to in Asia, and was immediately surrounded by a SWAT team of eight men in full black gear, helmets and shields facing her alone and blocking her from view. I still have her stuffed owl as a reminder of that moment to this day. Strider, our bengal cat, pulls it out and sleeps with it from time to time.)

In another scenario, I remember playing a show in Minneapolis with my band Headlight at Fine Line Music Cafe years back when an audience member decided to stand the entire show right on my side of stage up-front with his arms crossed and a bored look on his face. It ruined the entire vibe of the evening for me as my eyes were constantly pulled towards this sole vortex of emotion instead of any number of the other people obviously enjoying the show. Afterwards, out of nowhere, he came up to me as we were tearing down our gear and thanked us for the evening. “This was just what I needed tonight. Thanks for giving me a break from an otherwise horrible past month.” He said as he took turns shaking our hands.

That interaction was the last time I ever counted the members of the audience before a show or judged them by their ‘response’ and it’s been the most freeing decision I’ve ever made when it comes to performing live in-front of people.

So, if you and I were sitting down and grabbing a coffee before your show tonight…

If you had hired me to plan your next tour and we were brainstorming in pre-production…

If you are someone who is going to find yourself performing in front of people, on any level, in the near future, this is what I would ask you to do. 

Handwrite the following paragraph down, leaving the last bit blank. Then, every night before walking onstage, read it out loud to yourself and fill-in the blank with whatever comes to mind from night to night in that specific moment: 

“I am so damn thankful that my life has brought me to this moment getting to do what I love in front of people that want to hear me. There is nobody in the universe more worthy of playing these songs, in this moment, on my instrument than me. There’s no way I can ever fully understand how tonight might impact someone on a deep and meaningful level. I acknowledge and let go of the temptation to judge the evening and the audience by my understandably limited view from where I stand on stage. Tonight, I want to give the people listening ________________.”

As cheesy and lame as an exercise like this can be for most of us (myself included) I’m convinced that even the awareness of it in the moment could change the way you approach your music and that invisible connection we all have from on stage with those that are there to see us rock. 

So, If you ever come to a green-room minutes before a show and I’m not there, I’m most likely taking a moment to center myself in gratitude for the opportunity I get to give for a living. 

Please don't feel the need to tell me how many people showed up.